P.S. This information has been very helpful. Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 The fact they say they sell OEMs is proof they are scumbag counterfeiters. Registrant: Dont hesitate to let me know if you have any question, have a nice day! Thanks. If there is Velcro or other closing mechanism, it will be of poor quality and many times will not work correctly. (my friend has g10 irons and they are twins we could not tell they were fake!!!) http://www.myordergolf.com/index.php DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also learned that Mizuno did not care enough about me to let me know if my actions helped them out in the fight for counterfeit clubs. Expires on..: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 The price is $ 169.99 and free shipping to Sweden. too good! due to parenthood. Hi Everyone, ), TEE CB2 13* 3w, 43.5", 57g Fujikura Motore F1 X-flex !EMS is a service that only china have and use. Bill Organization: Chen Sun Oh well, like I say, just a thought. But I would point out the article is more than five years old and some of the figures go back more than 10 years. Doesnt appear to be fly-by-night. Hope this helps! I paid over $300 for these and guess what? The compilation (meaning the collection, arrangement, and assembly) of all Contents on this site is the exclusive property of Golfskydiscount,Inc. I know it fosters research and development in many fields, and encourages companies to improve products and technology. I've never seen fake left handed Miura irons. Clue one: Free shipping. Another clue. beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 Bill Phone: +86.85283408916 According to the cobra website , (click the online dealer link) golf247 are an authorised dealer. During my 11 years in the golf industry I have seen an explosion in golf club counterfeiters. Jeff. They are both directly enabling these fraudulent operations as far as I can tell. Fake clubs from China ChongQing I am now having dispute with them or over charging me 5Xluckily i check my bank for amount transacted and now waiting for them to cancel or face dispute. Has anyone purchased golf clubs from golfclubsinternational? Daisy 00:13:10 www.titleist.com So those of you worried that you may get ripped off by one of these sites need to take a step back and ask yourself, do I really need the name brand if I can only afford to pay the $500 these sites are charging and if so you must realize you usually get what you pay for so. The site is usgolfsale.com. Entrepreneur then contacted the businesses with the greatest growth to confirm eligibility. any new golf club with a smell likje a rubber tire are actually fake golf clubs..anyone who sells a lot of clubs anddd it not a retailer, they cant buy clubs that cheap form an autherized company. We offer the latest Miura iron sets and wedges online and in-store. There ARE reputable eBay sellers though and my recent experience buying a set of full custom Irons through a detailed fitting questionnaire was Best in class, while I did save hundreds. Bill Name: Brandgolfclubs Me13:28:40 How do we not get ripped off by someone who has purchased a fake from China and then on-sells it on eBay. And again, just because a serial number doesnt check out with an American manufacturer doesnt mean its FAKE For example Mizuno (USA) only serializes their clubs when they reach the USA. Anybody know anything about perfectoutdoorgame.com???? Branding and lofts will be in a slightly different location on the club head. It has no physical address, you cant pop round and see them. Those other sites just seem far too dodgy. b) extra epoxy isnt really indicative of a counterfeit either, because the club could have been reshafted by a hobbiest or a sloppy professional clubmaker. Caveat emptor. Just to add to my last post. The Hurricane site is similar to RockBottom and then they have their component business. ROCHESTER, N.Y.(BUSINESS WIRE)RockBottomGolf.com, a top internet golf retailer, announced today that the company has been named by Entrepreneur Magazine as one of Americas fastest growing companies in their annual Hot 500 list published in their August 2007 issue. They appear to opearte out of kingswood golf and country club in surrey and seem to be a registered seller with taylormade. Thanks again all for your diligent effort to keep us hacks safe with our purchases!! My best friend travels their three to four times a year. Do the right thing, go to your local retailer, handle the clubs, hit some balls with them, ask questions, get the right club for you, not copies of the pretty pictures you see on the internet. the typhoon in guangzhou. Sometimes the grip design will be from an older model club. if they are a fake i will open a dispute on paypal once i have recived the clubs. From this list, the Hot 500 was selected. It says they get sent from essex, england and not china, but not sure if there fake? The finish is different with the face looking much different than the rest of the club on the counterfeit. What do you suggest towards getting my money back. Sounded like an empty tea kettle! Let me know and I want to hear your feedback! Province/State : WG gu shan qu I bought some Ping G25s and while the shafts (TFC 360 graphite) and grips looked ok, the heads had a plastic covered piece of grey foam where the CTP should be (Tungsten insert). With sharp lines, a compact head size and a minimalist shape, MB101 irons are built for comprehensive workability and offer a purity of feel that is unsurpassed in golf. The business is a household name in the golfing community and enjoys an impressive level of customer acknowledgement. I have received literally thousands of items from RBG and have absolutely no doubt they are legitimate and reliable. I ordered a Scotty Cameron Putter. I was looking at the new Taylor superfast Burner Drivers and fairway woods. If so, was it real? the things I just described to you are what i wish I had known beofre I bought it. * Must have positive job growth between 2002 and 2006 How do you know ProshopJJ sells fakes? Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By The difference is the counterfiters use inferior materials in the molds. If you wait till the end of the season you are going to get a great deal on the clubs you want , I always am a year behind on my equipment just for the reason of seeing what is the best that year , then I try it and get my equipment for a great price . So they then putt these here for a few months websites with bogus registrar info and sell them to honest hard working unsuspecting golfers like you and me. Dont be a foul like I was and buy from Sunogolf. Province: Zhejiang Unfortunately I know first hand. They have the same minimum advertising prices as us so if it is cheaper then it is too good to be true 99.9% of the time. Has anyone ever purchased from him? The Most Insane Golf Blog Contest Ever!, WIN $420 of Free Money by Commenting on This Post, CONTEST! Report counterfeit: http://www.counterfeitalertnetwork.com.au or http://www.ic3.gov. Their posts sound like an advertisement. I didnt get a ridiculous price but saved a couple hundred which of course I put to good use at a local shop on a used driver. The only illegitimate thing to mention is my game being in hiatus for 6 yrs. Counterfeit Ping G30 Driver. Instead of it costing me the $465 I spent on the real one, it cost me a further $250 on the fake so $715 all up for the driver. I recently ordered supposed Taylormade R11 Fairway Woods from OURDISCOUNTGOLF.COM. I repeat that Rockbottom admitts it does not hold accounts with many major golf brands for the authorised purchase of golf clubs. And, Im getting a higher launch point (stopped a 166yd 6 iron dead on the green I NEVER do that. I just recently purchased an 08 Cobra Speed LD F Fairway 3 wood from garagesalegolf and I was satisfied with my experience. Very quick (free!) Prices are low but warning flags keep popping up. its offering all kinds of products at whoesale price Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com, Created on..: Wed, Aug 22, 2001 What price could you offer? Does anyone know whether this suppliers sell original stuff? The site is written in terrible English and when you Whois lookup the domain, it points to a chinese location NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! I would not purchase from them Michael. Their products can be found at http://www.rockbottomgolf.com and http://www.rockbottomgolfballs.com. Phone Number : 86-010-2994895-111 Where do I sign up? I am surprised you have to even ask if this website is legitimate. not to mention these companies would still make plenty of money using american (safe, sanitary, secure) labor. Daisy 00:21:27 How about gurugolf and empire-golf? What it needs is a listing of wht GolfSpy says are websites for obtaining legitimate used clubs. Admin Street1: Xiamen Personable, interested and helpful with targeted suggestions. The Miura stamp does not line up with the line below it on genuine ones either, false alarm. The donation will be made to fakedonationsinchina.com. Look for sloppy paint work or decals that are not placed properly. New York, NY 10018 Running as we speak. Many thanks. Bill Phone: +86.05946277277 I checked with this club and it seem not real original to me, because the swingweight is off the scale on each iron. Ferrules will be a different style. I read too many messages on this site and everyone need to be careful! Get the word out! ali/ dh what da faqqqqqq never herd such lunacy .. I know I probably sound like a representative but I assure I am just a customer. Are these fakes? First off I just want to thank u for this blogit has really opened my eyes to this world of fake clubs. I noticed a comment about this site. There are some reputable dealers online believe it or not. Miura has been making the world's finest forged golf clubs since 1957. I just posted up the best fake back photo I could find. To be fair here is the scoop on RBG the blurb is from manta.com small business site. Do you need any more proof of the golf scams that abound on the internet? Ask them some general questions about the stuff you are looking at, like if it is authentic or not, if it is a club or set of clubs ask if you can get the serial #s off of them, and make sure to check out their feedback. Super street There is some advantage though to a higher trajectory. You cannot paste images directly. Has anyone ever dealt with great golf sales on e bay. Thats when I started researching fake sites. Here is their reply: As our clubs will be directly shipped from our supplier, so we cant send the serial numbers to you. Sunogolf also have very cheap fake clubs I know I made the mistake and didnt listen to all the others that bought from them. Admin FAX Ext. Part-Time. So is hurricane golf have real/legit golf clubs? Do you have questions or comments? I have also purchased a set of Mizuno MP57s irons from Global Golf, I live in Sweden and ordered them online when I was on vacation in Florida. tel: Is it safe to buy an ironset from them (New Adams Idea Black CB2 irons 6-PW+AW $299.99). I suppose buying used adds a little complexity. I should receive the clubs in a few days. I could have told them that just by the sound it made when I hit it. My friend in HK tried to buy Ive disputed the charge with my cc company and am awaiting resolution. So clearly, they deal with Callaway. Anybody purchase from this ebayer? I mean, if I just bought a dodge charger and my friend pulled up to me, in a dodge charger with no labels that he bought that way. DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING FROM THESE FRAUDS. Next time you are in China please look us up. Thanks for your visiting progolfstore.co.uk. When it arrived, I compared it to Pings photos, it looked legit. They seem to offer a pretty good deals. 50"-35.75" length range. Wondering if this is selling fake products. Then maybe they just run off a few extra when the Adams rep goes to the hotel to sleep. thanks. Seem to have great prices on Ping irons, good feedback. 5 Testers Needed! Me13:27:27 No physical address, misspellings on website and free delivery throughout the world. This isnt just caused by the material, but also by the angle of the club-face. If anyone has any experience with them I would appreciate your opinion. Dont order anything from any website to sell cheap cost for golf clubs. Taylormade putters and wedges do not have serial numbers. With the margins they make they can afford to eat 3-5% of all sales and still make a fortune. http://www.3balls.com 6123319303 Fax , Domain servers in listed order: hi all bottom line, they are not all honest seller but some of them are honest and give great service and sell original stuff. There will also be a tiny 2D barcode next to the serial number. China There is just too much to gainthe market for this has just gotten too big. If the online stores were TRULY getting their products from the companies, then the prices of these golf balls should be low and updated to the latest inventory. Also, on eBay I see all kinds of them selling from 499 to 569 Im guessing those are counterfeit, would you agree? Just bought a new FT-iZ off of eBay dealer proshop-JJ. To this day, Miura-san continues to work in the factory with his sons, Shinei and Yoshitaka, who proudly carry on the Miura legacy. TaylorMade's global enforcement efforts are extensive and include a variety of areas such as working directly and collectively with local, federal and international agencies and actively participating in coalitions to rid the marketplace of fakes and help keep it clean for the golf consumer who is looking for the high quality merchandise that Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade), BGT Stability tour black with Scotty Cameron pistolini grip. Baskil, March 30, 2017 in Japanese and Non-US. My son wants to order from them thanks, I just recieved a Scotty Camaron putter from them and compaired it to my own, seems okay the weight is good it sits behind the ball well, checked on the Scotty Camaron wedsite and is identical to the ones on screen, so if it is fake then its flipping good. Only 95,000 businesses or 0.5 percent of the 19 million businesses met the above criteria. Ive been looking at Callaway BB clubs abd Diablo woods and they do have attractive prices. Why do these companies ship work and resources out of our domestic economy? Most stickers on authentic clubs are placed on the underside of the shaft up by the grip or down next to the ferrule. I think like yourself there are many golfers that have decided to not shop on EBAY anymore for golf equipment, That is one reason the OEMs are doing the pre-owned stores nowadays. You just saved me a ton of money with your site Thank You. OK so a follow up on Diamond Tour Golf which makes Clones NOT imitations or fakes. They say the clubs come from a OEM supplier. Ill also have to mention that the staff at Diamond Tour has been fantastic in working with me. I just bought 1 set cleveland CG14 wedge from this website ,very nice wedge! I want to bid on some mizuno mx 200 irons and would like to know if you think hes legit. Daisy 00:12:29 He does have a very good seller rating. No problem as I can see. (9000+ sells and 99.8% positive feedback). United States, Domain Name: 2NDSWING.COM Hi Guys Whatever brand name you want on a club well put it on. Added it to the accidental post I made above. Any scam here? Golf goods and equipment in Rochester, NY The majority of their workers put in 12-hour days, 7-days a week, and are paid only about $150 a month. im new to online buying and hope my first major purchase doesnt leave a bad taste in my mouth. So, I bought a set of Calloways from GolfWholesale18. But the Good set is $311?!? I don't think Mr Miura would license Aliexpress to sell 3 of his wedges for $65!!!!! If you're worried at all about them being real, I'd be happy to take them off of your hands. Maybe they're drop shipping. Customer service is extremely friendly, helpful, and efficient. The paint fill is not solid and the grip is smaller than the authentic one on the right. Ask for Mr Joe. Hey everyone, I just wanted to add another good way to identify these fake golf clubs on alot of these websites is to see if they offer lefthand not always but it works the majority of the time. I have recently bought Vega clubs on eBay does anyone know if this brand is regularly faked? must be counterfiets? Why are they exempt from being faked? Post was not sent - check your email addresses! * Company sales in 2002 must be $100,000 or greater; 2006 sales must not exceed $1 billion Look through our new arrivals to find used golf clubs online or Japanese golf clubs for sale. The G10 driver did not sound quite like a Ping should sound so I checked the serial number with Ping, and they confirmed these were fakes. jarediogolf Thanks-edmon. Easily the cheapest in the world, possibly cheaper than the cheapest. EmperorPenguin I am not sayig eBay isnt a great place to shop for clubs, but you really have to look at what your bidding on as it could be a fake. Has anyone had any trouble or ordered clubs from these sites in the past? Registrant Postal Code: 351100 Clue two: No physical address. I purchased a set of TaylorMade r7 CGB Max Graphite from an online store at an unbelievably low price. From there, I would go through the things listed on this website! Nick, Many of the younger kids were talking about a place called http://www.rockbottomgolf.com and how one of our kids bought a RBZ driver by taylormade at a great price. Im wondering weather there products are fake/copies? Please listen very careful I recommend not order any golf club from the internet as not famous golf business name from oversea! Tech FAX Ext. I was wondering if there were perhaps fakes out there that could even have gotten into official dealer stocks. Keep up the good work!! I told the seller and he told me I couldnt afford good irons and I was wrong lol. I put most of the blame on all of the OEMs for the counterfiet problem we are having if they would keep the MFG in the states we would not have to question whether or not we are buying fakes. Do not buy anything from this site. Im not buying this. fax: Status : I just thought I would say that not all club makers on e-bay are looking to scam people. I mostly posted the finished post after reading others saying that there aren't any Chinese Miura knockoffs because it wouldn't be worth it to have dies made for that little money, so they're real. When I told them the bolts came completely out, they suggrsted that I take the clubs to an authorized dealer to see if they might be counterfeit. Other online retailers have them for 799. A: Yes, you will get a confirmation email once payment confirmed or package shipped. Edit: Just noticed there are duplicate listings from Israel with same shipping from China, even though seller says they're in Israel. The seller never argued against it but was reluctant to offer a full refund. Having problems sending them back. if you want to remove any doubts, go to an authorized dealer. I was wondering if my golf wholesale is a legit site and if anybody has bought any clubs from this site? That means providing you with equipment reviews you can trust, Is he cheaing? Some retailers resorted to purchasing lots of watches needed to get the volume discount, but not being able to sell at the price they were required. our clubs are with the same material,same quality with the clubs made in Muzuno factory the particular irons i looked at (Nike Golf- 2012 Machspeed X Irons 4-PW/AW Steel) were very poor quality clubs. Website Status: active Phoenix, AZ. Now I assume you are equipped to research (I did mine), and a little digging you would have found this newspaper article (i.e. Of course not. How about the critics go work for 3 US a day f that much, Hi i find this all interesting as i have just been had when i purchased a set of callaway x22 tour irons and have since found that they are fakes even the reg number was for the x20 series and not for the x22,when i registered the set with callaway the number was accepted onl because it related to the older series. They tell me they do not sell fakes, or copies and have factory authorized warrantied products. Anyone dealt with buycheapgolf.com? no risk of getting counterfeits. Material used is much stiffer and not as supple as the authentic. 4 to AW Steel Regular Shaft at 899. where is your company based? Thank you. and how do they feel hitting the little white devil? Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway The MC-501 (Muscle Cavity) combines the playability of a blade with the forgiveness of a cavity back. I ended up with Steel and Stiff for my Hybrid clubs and it turns out I dont need the draw after all. Like I said base the decision on how the club plays. I would hope that they are quite rare and therefore not worth forging? Eric 09:56:36 They didnt try to hide the fact that they are in China. Has anyone had any experience with this site? On further examination, I found the bolt on the 3 wood was a little longer than the bolt on the 5 wood and apparently was bottoming out. tons of guys getting burned by this guy. All good? I just bought a set of mizuno mp68s off of mysurbuy.com and now I very uneasy with my purchase..what should I doI have not recieved the clubs yet they are in the mail. They have both improved their quality with the edge going to Diamondtour.com. A friend put it on his scale to check swing weight (should have been D3) and it was so heavy it was off the scale. Normally, the counterfeit serial numbers are in a different font and specifically a larger font. Phone: 1-902-7492701 Based on that, my take would be that they are legit and clubs are authentic with that much trade they clearly have buying power and hence probably get clubs at bulk rates. Anyone out there know if site is genuine. This is another perfect example of the thieves that masquerade as golf retailers in the boundless world that is the internet. Hi Interesting reading and I now fear Ive been scammed. how would you like me to send it: over this messenger or by email or by phone Let me know, send to [emailprotected] I will ask him who is reps are and ask for their contact info. My relatives every time say that I am wasting my time here at net, They state that all their clubs come from OEMs. Do they sell senior flex shafts? What a surprise, the logo isnt linked. If you really want good quality golf club, go to your local golf store and they will give you fitting and measure and you buy the golf club from them! Bill Email: [emailprotected]. Generally the ball takes a nice straight path, club to landing (though Im still susceptible to pushes and pulls). Anyone have any feedback with these sites? Sunny13:26:07 Buyers beware. The bore heads were irregular. Only selective Miura's have the "GENUINE" in print. Are they fakes? but scotty cameron dont allow any putter to be sold under 299 over the net, I 20:24:51 US I am looking to replace an older Miura model but I don't see it on your website. I forgot to lis the site, http://Golfwholesaleshop.com. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Contest runs from May 18th June 1st Maximum of 5 entires allowed 1 allowed per day The Contest Has Officially Begun! PayPal and Ebay provide no protection at all if you deal with these sellers, be fully aware of that!!! For Luis. Registrant FAX Ext. I believe these brands have prices that retailers are not supposed to reduce. I bought a set of Pings from TGW a few weeks ago in thier clearance section at a very nice price. However, the club was obviously too heavy. I bought TM R11 from Rockbottomgolf.com;do you think its real. from the company known address and on arrival to the address given, no such company Do they meet the criteria of the other posts on here? If you want purchase from EBay you may select Dealers/Sellers from the U.S. thus staying away from those in Asia which eliminates some or most counterfeit clubs. Font used will be slightly different or maybe a slightly different size. wholesalegolfmart.us. hello? Does anybody know hotsale.com? Must admit that the prices looked to good to be true and the about us citation was written in pidgin English but the pictures of the clubs looked so real. gu shan qu Email : Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that their phone number is a Chinese phone number. Does it have a telephone number other than for sales only? Maybe if the companies wouldnt charge so much for clubs, we could all get them from dealers here! no or by third parties who have licensed their materials to Golfskydiscount,Inc. Kinda where I was leaning anyway, as they have good prices, but not stupidly good prices. Japan JDM. Tour Edge Tour Edge manufacture golf clubs under 3 different brands. For some reason I got a thanks for communicating message and was cut off I have just received a set of ladies cobra s3 max combo set. My clubs arrived in great shape and I had actually talked to one of the guys at the shop at garagesalegolf before they shipped as I had inquired about a speedier shipment and they called me to try to rush it out (I ended up choosing the normal route which still arrived a couple of days faster than I thought it would). (I love my Nickents!). With that said, reputable sights IMO Individuals that are clearly individuals (feedback 100-400) and not companies. Thanks for this post. Thanks for your consideration. the pictures were from a regular camera. I have always had a soft spot for the 201's and 301's. http://www.onlinegolf.co.uk/. I am glad you had a good experience with them Chris. they arrived 3 days later with the plastic wrap still on the heads in separate boxes. Too cheap to be genuine and no postal or contact. A fool and his money are easily parted. No phone #. Hitting them it seems impossible they are fakes. Has anybody ever bought anything off of worldgolfsupplies on ebay? Your link has been automatically embedded. Speaking of security, notice that when you go to the page that asks you to put in most of your personal information that it is NOT secure. having said that taylormade will NOT confirm serial numbers anymore, so what theyre saying is that there is no way to know if these are authentic. Is ksouth9 a legit website, for selling quality golf clubs! Complete Guide to Identify Counterfeit Golf Clubs, Cleveland Golf Show - 18 Tips for the Cleveland Golf Show, Feb. 16-18, 20 Tips for The 2020 Cleveland Golf Show | Feb. 1416 at the IX Center. If you need anything else feel free to ask Todd. Does anyone have experience with dealing with them? When I received my invoice it showed the Chinese company deng xu:[emailprotected] Ahh, you think that price is cheap on the internet? Miura's USP is their superior feel. When I questioned their online customer service they said these are original Pings with serial numbers ? I ordered the Taylormade R9TP irons and was contacted within a few hours by my CC company asking if I had purchased any electronic equipment from Toyontech.com. found a website called http://www.hygolfcn.com. I've got two Miura wedges from there, they came in basically new condition for significant discount (looked like they had hit 3-5 balls indoors). Hope everyone finds this usefulPlease Pass It On. I disputed the bogus Chinese tourist activites charge that mysteriously appeared after the club order, with my card company. I just don't want a member here to get caught with a set of $1000+ counterfeit irons. please add golfclubcheap website to list of china fake club companies. At first I thought "maybe" on eBay with the almost $300 buy it now, but it smelled fishy. Did you read the refunds and returns policy? Country: Hong Kong Not that it automatically means its counterfeit but lets just say it looks questionnable. The appearance and quality is as the same as the authentic one, except no authority and the quality assurance of the brandcompany. So what does OEM mean? Yup, fake written all over if you look close enough, but the ball still goes straight and it is good for a second bag, or to practice .. in the garage. Thanks again for the great customer service! OK so much for describing the difference between fakes and clones. IP Location: -(-) ns2.ename.cn Hi Guys please be aware of this site http://www.wholesalegolfmart.com What else should I do about reporting them to TaylorMade, Ebay, or Law Enforsement? except I know I am getting knowledge every day by reading thes good posts. They are the cheapest around my area, it is a family run business. As looking below, when I checked serial number about which I ordered, it was turned out fake goods. ns2.cnolnic.com. I would not recommend. http://www.golfulove.com. On a side note, I emailed themthere 24/7 hotline was not workingabout purchasing a set of Ping G15 irons ($319 w/graphite shafts). There whois info is spotty at best. They seem legit. Has anyone bought clubs from http://www.24golfstore.com Is this site for real? stay away from this seller,, the-tour-van,, quite a joke, guy working out of his apartment flipping stuff he buys from china and ebay, quite the joke, fake shafts, pulls, etc has no industry knowledge and here things about this dude constantly on every golf website there is. STEAL THESE FROM ME! Ping BeCu Pal 4 The deals seem a little too good to be true? Its not often you fing the fake site with a form of contact however i found a site with a chat link, and clearly the service was so poor and DAISEY, well not sure she can speak english have a look at our lovely conversation , I 00:10:30
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