There were talks mentioned in August and no deal was done. You do need to add a year of FA to that because 6 years takes them through his first year of FA. The move is retroactive to Sept. 21 and Strider has not pitched since last Sunday. Atlanta Braves rookie pitcher Spencer Strider had himself a day against the Reds on Saturday - he struck out 11 hitters in just six innings of work and got the win to improve to 4-2 on the. He might not be worth what hes asking. Agreed, but they hadnt locked up any pitching long-term. Props to the AA coaching staff. Love to see it for the player, team and the fan base. The earliest Strider could have been arb eligible was after 2024. Salary Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. To say theres no way they avoid the luxury tax is ridiculous. He will finish the year with exactly ONE FULL YEAR OF SERVICE!! I rather prefer people dont respect the Braves. Jose Ramirez begs to disagree. The work that Alex Anthopoulos is doing with the Braves is outstanding. Long-term extensions do not preclude a player from getting those bonus pool dollars pre-arbitration. From the official MLB site: To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. Spencer Strider is on Twitter at SpencerSTRIDer. It assumes continued success after only 130 IP in the majors, it assumes zero regression, it assumes increase arb records at every level, it assumes higher investments on pitchers which is trending away from that since all starters are facing TJ surgery at least once in their career. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. You are right about Striders value potentially increasing. Spencer Strider made last year. He started the season in Atlanta. Except theyre going up against the Yankees time slots. Not sure what your point is, but throwing 100 mph doesnt mean crap for a number of reasons, one there are guys like Mauricio Cabrera:, Bruce Rondn, Henry Alberto Rodriguez:, Joel Zumaya:, Tayron Guerrero, Bobby Parnell, who have touched 103 mph and none have made anywhere near that money and all had problems turning velocity into results. They also made a couple great trades getting future star players that wear near MLB ready (Dansby/Fried). Even if Strider had Bob Gipsons 1968 season or even put up Verlanders 2022, there is no precedent for this contract. In terms of his personal life, he is in a relationship with Maggie, a young and lovely girl. @MJ Youve omitted a year of Sotos arbitration. Why would Swanson get Story or Baez money? If they would have waited to sign him for two years, it wouldve made less than a $10M difference in his contracts at most, but it would have given the team an extra $20M to spend before hitting the cap. Rich teams have figured this out. 1 Freddie Freeman, 1B, LAD. That will fall far short of the top 22 percent. Now sign 7! The Apple games are exclusives and are blacked out to anyone subscribing to MLB.tv (or regional cable: Bally, in the Braves case) further diluting the market. Preferably, youd also buy out another year or two of free agency at that point, as well. Its possible but I wouldnt go as far as to say its likely. Its not their young pitching, its pitching in general. 2 top 5 MVP finishes before his first 2 arb seasons. I think its going to bite them in a few years, when they realize the quality of the product is declining. In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. And him being top 2 in the ROY balloting has no bearing on his service time because the Braves never tried to manipulate it. In a general sense, the Harris deal is a great one, and Riley. That is just temporary. So $74.75 million for the pre-arb and 4 arb years + $72 million for the FA years = $146.75 million. But it would certainly not be enough to be among the top 22 percent of players in that class (the lowest the Super Two cutoff has been since 2009 is 2 years and 115 days after 2019). Atlanta, of course, had previously already signed outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr. and second baseman Ozzie Albies to club-friendly extensions. If hes just a flash in the pan, this contract will hurt the Braves badly from 2026 to 2028. Yes, it would be more pricey that way, but its worth it to mitigate the good majority of the risk. Braves put RHP Strider on IL with oblique strain, Scherzer tries to test pitch clock limits, gets balk, Jays' Guerrero to miss WBC with inflamed knee, Rangers, LHP Smith agree to 1-year, $1.5M deal, 7 Cubs combine for 1st spring no-no since 2017, Jays 'playing it safe' after Guerrero tweaks knee, PitchCom-tipping: Loud device leaks Twins calls, Eflin's first start after $40M deal impresses Rays. Now they have him locked in through 2028 with extremely team friendly option in 2029. The Braves announced a six-year contract extension for Rookie of the Year candidate Spencer Strider. Braves fans are setup extremely well. ~$15M (Arb2) Going to be stunned if AA downgrades at SS w/their current competitive excellence at all other positions except left field. While Steve offers a hypothesis of free agent years costing $40M or more annually, the reality is Scherzer may be the best pitcher of his generation, Kershaw and Verlander included and his $40M was clearly an overpay, evem on a short deal. MLB 4.05M subscribers Subscribe 3.1K Share 120K views 5 months ago Don't forget to subscribe!. So we are primed in the next 2 years ti go after anyone and hopefully alvarez and baty are legit to add to alonso lindor and whoever else. $1M (2024) Really? I think they have the money. Not to mention at that point, many of the players might even decide to wait out until free agency and refuse any potentially team friendly deals. It shows loyalty and commitment to someone whos earned it. Winning always helps too. Around $150 million for those 7 seasons. Defending Champs and your slotted at Get Away games. They shouldve gotten at least 3 guaranteed free agent years plus an option year for that kind of heavy payout, and even then its unnecessarily risky for the team compared to other early career extensions. Players dont sign team friendly contacts because they are happy where they are(Jose Ramirez disagreeS. Lame. Its not if Strider has TJ surgery, but when he will have it. The Padres have about $57MM on the 28 books between Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis Jr., while the Rangers have about $51MM on the books between Corey Seager and Marcus Semien. Spencer Strider: . The volatility is too high. Love the extension deal for a young guy. Has to be mostly geographic. They arent regretting losing Rendon. Per SNY's Andy Martino, the Mets are hesitant to go up to four years if another team offered four at a high salary figure for the two-time Cy Young winner, who opted out of the remaining two years of the five-year . Not going to roast you on Sewmake, Mercenary, but imo theres no possibility of him being considered as a viable replacement for Swanson. Yeah Anthopoulos has spent right to the cap limit if he brings back Swanson! Now this young arm will feel a bit more comfortable coming out on short rest, out of the pen, whatever the case may be knowing he has some security next year and beyond. I used Harvey as a buyer beware caution notice. Braves need to sign Fried. MLB, Minor, College and summer league baseball stats along with biography, draft info, salary,transactions, awards and more! It would also be easier to negotiate more free agent years into the deal while still getting a significant discount on them. Nothing like leaning $15M/year against the cap instead of $1M by rushing to make a long-term deal with almost no chance of it showing positive value! From one English major to another, genius! They control his first two FA years for somewhere in the range of $40-50MM total, depending how aggressively you want to project his arb numbers and only one of the two years is even guaranteed. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. In any case, thats not one of the issues with this contract. Strider is going to bonuses left and right which wouldve added to his arb numbers if he went that route. Genuinely curious. My guess is he re-signs w/the Braves. But blowing a 7 1/2 game lead on August 7 and losing 6-7 to the primary opposition is absolutely a choke job. Im doing the same at the end of October. This. Spencer Strider is currently the starting pitcher position for the Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league of the United States. To be totally honest, its not the least bit justifiable in any light. I hope he stays but it wont be the end of the world to have a glove 1st ss hitting 9th in this line up. Apple TV games are free this year. If he performs in 2023 like he did in 2022, which was off the charts great, then it would be reasonable to expect similar numbers to what Soto got in years one and two. Strider will qualify for Super Two. I mean, kudos to the Braves for being aggressive and theyre certainly taking on risk of injury / under-performance, but seems some of the extensions the players have signed seem light. This is irrelevant, this is such a stupid overpay. Without me teaching you how trade valuations are correctly built, I cant debate with because I think so, I have to explain how I got that answer. Grisssoms a likely utility player or trade chip. What it means is you get credited with a full year regardless of the actual number of days you spent on the roster and are affirmatively NOT a Super Two because you were given a full year of service time. You are probably not accounting for the adjustments with the new CBA. The Braves have no SS prospects at the upper mil levels. Thats stupid-economics! They will likely have to beat the league-leading LA Dodgers if they want to reach the World Series. Draft And guess what? The Marlins are one of the furthest teams from elite in the MLB. It is for someone that age. 3.04 ERA 8.7 K/9. @Lanidrac Its very unlikely to hurt the Braves badly, since short of catastrophic injury (for which theyll probably have insurance) theyd be keeping him around anyway, shepherding him through TJ should that happen, paying arb awards, collecting insurance. Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Kind of like the super 2 guys getting that fourth arb year. THIRD BASE Nolan Arenado, 3B, STL. So yeah, cost of living is a factor. So yes, the Braves could have waited to see if he will continue to perform at the same level as he did in 2022 and if he does perform they would have paid that price. Take Ohtanis arb for an example, $30MM for next season. Pads Fan. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? If youre a Tigers fan, you probably should hope Baez opts out after 2023. Being healthy doesnt make you as good. Biography, Net Worth, Gossips, Salary, News & Much More. I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. Salary, Earnings Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. Have the Braves not noticed how many of their young pitchers have fallen apart after 2-3 years over the last two decades? View a free mock draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 4 teams in a STD format. Sure, they have control of Fried/Wright (even via arb), but Strider is the first long-term arm. By the way, dont tell me what to I can or cant link to for reference, furthermore, people dont rewrite the same theories every year! Im pretty sure these always lean more favorably to position players. Cant believe how many time the site posts the same comment. He would have been Arb 1 eligible after 2024. Sorry for the confusion. These guys are used to winning together, and I would expect that to continue. You also dont know whether he took the extension in order to lock up significant money, as a hedge against injury, or because he and his agent wanted to advance pitcher salaries for others. With pitchers, it seems every one goes down with season ending shoulder, elbow and back injuries. Player page for Spencer Strider of the Atlanta Braves. To be fair, theyve made it much more difficult on fans. and injuries. To an SP, well, it seems awfully risky. Cant see that happening. ATLANTA -- Within a matter of minutes, the Spencer Strider narrative changed from: How effective might he be in the National League Division Series to how effective might he be through at least the 2028 season? =========================== High School: Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN), School: Clemson University (Clemson, SC), Debut: The Marlins are one new owner away from being elite. He only hit the first two weeks he was up. Not a super bargain like Albies Acuna but its fine. While I suppose they are blacked out on MLB.tv, but then you can just watch them on Apple TV instead. You sound like you have a community college education in accounting. Past that, I think all these extensions are based on the character of the player as much as talent. J.R. Ritchie, RHP 3. He swings at any and everything trying to make contact. The dudes who write for this site were linking Cole to the Angels. I was down there for that last Mets series and all I heard was silence from the Mets fan base Sunday night. Riley had two seasons under his belt, Olson five seasons and the Acuna and Ozzie contracts are both highway robbery for the Braves. So Ill do another one for you since you didnt like my Fried example. The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. So by that logic, if you are making $500K/year, you would buy a Snickers bar for $10 because you have lots of money? Spencer Strider has played for 1 team, the Atlanta Braves. Noah Syndergaards arb years: $3M (2018), $6M (2019), $9.7M x 2 (2020 & 2021). Tyler Wells gets his first start of the spring against Spencer Strider. Give Swanson credit for being healthy for the last couple of seasons. Spencer Robert Strider (born October 28, 1998) is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Atlanta Braves of Major League Baseball (MLB). Wouldve been a massive overpay. No, the alternative is to wait an extra year or two before extending him and then not overpaying for his arb years if/when you do still decide to extend him. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. In 2020, he returned to the field and began playing as a weekend starter. They average the length of the deal. If he spent the whole season on the major league roster he is definitely NOT a Super Two. I really hope Dansby is extended and I think he will (hes a local guy and by all accounts loves being a Brave). If he got close to sniffing free agency, he would have demanded two or three times what we are going to be paying him. I think thats not quite that straightforward. $10M (2025) Braves will be WS contenders for the next 5 years at least with this core. ft. is going for $60M+. Cole has stated since he was in UCLA that he was a Yankee fan and wanted to be in pinstripes when he grew up, he was even drafted by the Yankees and chose college ball, but said it was a tough choice and hoped hed end up there eventually. The Atlanta #Braves today signed RHP Charlie Morton to a one-year contract worth $20 million for the 2023 season, with a $20 million club option for 2024 that does not include a buyout. Theyre a tight group and theyre great young men, Snitker said. As for real estate, go check the difference. He has only 1 All-Star appearance, 2 Gold Gloves, and 1 Silver Slugger. He had two pre-arb years left and then 3 arb years before the extension. Cost of living adjustments are more for your average person. The deal includes a $22M club option, with a $5M buyout." - @ MLB Transaction Tracker. His decline in velocity at the end of his outing may just be a conditioning issue due to his inactivity. Some recent examplesHarvey (lol), Matz, Gsellman, etc. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. If they are playing in New York, they ask the team to pay their apartment rent or to finance the home they live in, they get extra money to offset the taxes. Super Two only applies when they have at least approximately 2/3 of a year of service time but less than a full season to where the team gets almost seven years of control (like the infamous Kris Bryant example) instead of slightly over six as in Striders case. Two east coast teams in ATL/PHI with two west coast teams in LAD/SD pretty much guarantees youre going to go in this order. Mets 6986: Three days at seasons end and 2.1 innings pitched by Strider in 2021. I see Grissom in the outfield with Harris/Acuna next year. Lets say $30 mil for year 3. Geraldo Quintero, IF 8. If he has any hope of living up to this contract, Strider will have to play the whole year on the MLB roster for 2023 without injuries. Kris Bryant and Cody Bellinger were Super Twos, for instance, being arb eligible four times as opposed to the usual three. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. In reality though, they dont have too b/c some are just that damn team friendly. $1M (2023) Late in February, Spencer proposed to Maggie Whitener, and the two are now happily married. Then blew it against the Braves and then against the Pads. Strider burst on the scene this year as he posted a 2.67 ERA with 202 strikeouts over 31 appearances (20 starts), becoming the first Braves rookie in the Modern Era to have a 200-strikeout season. Strider will be top 2 in ROY voting. Since 2019, Story 16.2 WAR 2 things: If his performance stays this high he will make over $80 million in his pre-arb year and those 4 arb years. Before joining MLB, he was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 and later missed the . If you agree, than stop knit-picking what everyone else says. Most annoying 3-2 hitter Ive watched all season. A fourth-round gem in the extremely truncated 2020 draft (five rounds), Strider skyrocketed through the Braves system despite a lack of minor league games in 2020, ultimately making his Major League debut late in the 2021 season. Injuries and regression could always push any of these extensions from bargain to burden particularly in the later stages of the deals, when the salaries are come with more heft.
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